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Single Technology Appraisal (STA)

Finerenone for treating chronic kidney disease in people with type 2 diabetes

Response to consultee and commentator comments on the draft remit and draft scope (pre-referral)

Please note: Comments received in the course of consultations carried out by NICE are published in the interests of openness and transparency, and to promote understanding of how recommendations are developed. The comments are published as a record of the submissions that NICE has received, and are not endorsed by NICE, its officers or advisory committees.

Comment 1: the draft remit

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Appropriateness
It is important that
appropriate topics
are referred to NICE
to ensure that NICE
guidance is relevant,
timely and addresses
priority issues, which
will help improve the
health of the
population. Would it
be appropriate to
refer this topic to
NICE for appraisal?
Bayer It is appropriate to refer this topic to NICE for appraisal. Chronic kidney disease
(CKD) is one of the most common diseases worldwide (1). Diabetes is the leading
cause of CKD (2) with approximately half of CKD cases associated with diabetes
(2). CKD affects approximately 38% of type 2 diabetes (T2D) patients (3).
CKD in patients with T2D is a progressive disease associated with increased
kidney and cardiovascular (CV) mortality (4). The risk of kidney and CV
complications increases as patients progress to more advanced CKD stages (5).
CKD in patients with T2D is associated with lower quality of life (QoL) compared to
patients with T2D without CKD (6). CKD in patients with T2D is associated with a
considerable economic burden, with the cost per patient significantly higher than for
CKD or T2D alone (7). The medical resource utilisation and associated costs
increase as patients progress to more advanced CKD stages (8).
ACEi and ARB have been the mainstay treatment for retarding the progression
toward end-stage renal disease for decades (9). Despite this, patients have a
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residual risk of progression to more advanced CKD stages. Proven treatment
alternatives are needed to reduce the burden among patients with CKD and T2D.
Finerenone has been studied in a large population of patients with CKD and T2D
and has demonstrated significant benefits on both renal and CV outcomes (10).
(1) Jager, K.J., et al.,,A single number for advocacy and communication-worldwide more than
_850 million individuals have kidney diseases._Kidney Int, 2019. 96(5): p. 1048-1050.,
2019.96(5)
(2) Tuttle, K.R., et al.,Clinical Characteristics of and Risk Factors for Chronic Kidney Disease
_Among Adults and Children: An Analysis of the CURE-CKD Registry._JAMA Netw Open,
2019.2(12): p. e1918169.
(3) Wu B, Bell K,Stanford A,et al.Understanding CKD among patients with T2DM:prevalence,
temporal trends,and treatment patterns—NHANES 2007–2012.BMJOpen Diabetes Research
and Care 2016;4:e000154.
(4) Afkarian M et al. Kidney Disease and Increased Mortality Risk in Type 2 Diabetes. J Am Soc
Nephrol24: 302–308, 2013.
(5) Kidney Disease: Improving GlobalOutcomes (KDIGO) CKD Work Group. KDIGO 2012 Clinical
Practice Guideline for theEvaluation and Management of Chronic Kidney Disease.Kidney
inter., Suppl.2013;3: 1–150.
(6) Grandy S, et al. Change in health status (EQ-5D) over 5 years among individuals with and
without type 2 diabetes mellitus in the SHIELD longitudinal study. Health Qual Life Outcomes
2012;10:99.
(7) United States Renal Data System. 2019 Annual Data Report. Executive summary.
(8) Nichols, G.A., et al., Health Care Costs by Type of Expenditure across eGFR Stages among
Patients with and without Diabetes, Cardiovascular Disease, and Heart Failure. J Am Soc
Nephrol, 2020
(9) Viazzi et al. Renin–angiotensin–aldosterone system blockade in chronic kidney disease:
current strategies and a look ahead. Intern Emerg Med (2016) 11:627–635
(10) Bakris et al. Effect of Finerenone on Chronic Kidney Disease Outcomes in Type 2 Diabetes. N
Engl J Med 2020; 383:2219-2229
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
The draft remit is appropriate Thank you for your
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Kidney Care UK Yes Thank you for your
comment.
Wording
Does the wording of
the remit reflect the
issue(s) of clinical
and cost
effectiveness about
this technology or
technologies that
NICE should
consider? If not,
please suggest
alternative wording.
Bayer The wording of the remit is appropriate. Thank you for your
comment.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
The wording of the remit is appropiate Thank you for your
comment.
Kidney Care UK Yes Thank you for your
comment.
Timing Issues Bayer Any intervention which will reduce pressure on NHS services, considering the
inevitable backlog as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, could be considered a
priority. By reducing important and costly CV and renal events and delaying
progression of CKD in T2D, finerenone would be a timely addition to the treatment
options available to clinicians and patients in the NHS.
Prevention is at the heart of the NHS Long Term Plan. CVDPREVENT is a National
Primary Care audit commissioned by NHS England and NHS Improvement. The
audit will target six common high-risk conditions that are linked to patients
developing CV disease, one being CKD.
The programme will support primary care in understanding how many patients with
these high-risk conditions are undiagnosed, under treated or over treated. The audit
will enable practices and primary care networks to systematically identify individuals
whose clinical risk factors are sub-optimally managed so that they can be offered
treatment to minimise their risk of a life-changing CV event.
Thank you for your
comment. This topic
has been scheduled
into the work
programme.

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The standard of care for patients with CKD and T2D is limited to the use of renin-
angiotensin blockage (ACEi/ARB) as well as optimising glucose control. Healthcare
professionals will need access to a range of treatment class options to meet the
needs of different patients identified for additional interventions for CKD in T2D.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/ourwork/clinical-policy/cvd/cvdprevent/
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
There is no immediate urgency of this appraisal to the NHS as RAS
inhibition and SGLT2 inhibitors are already established therapeutic options
for DKD and the latter have yet to be clearly embedded as standard of care
of DKD
Thank you for your
comment. This topic
has been scheduled
into the work
programme.

Comment 2: the draft scope

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Background
information
Bayer We would like to highlight a minor point. In terms of the size of the population,
Bayer note that the reference for the size of the population of patients with
diabetes in England relates to all those with diagnosed diabetes, not specifically
T2D. The same statistics section of the referenced website refers to 90% of
patients with diabetes having T2D, so Bayer consider the number quoted should
be reduced to approximately 3 million.
As stated in the background, NICE clinical guideline 182 recommends blood
pressure targets for people with CKD and diabetes, and recommends a renin-
Thank you for your
comment. The size of
the population with type
2 diabetes has been
updated.
The wording related to
pharmacotherapy for
chronic kidney disease
(CKD) reflects the
recommendations in

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angiotensin system antagonist., such as an ACE inhibitor or ARB for control of
blood pressure if there is an ACR of 3 mg/mmol or more.
Bayer suggest the wording could be amended here to reflect that a number of
renin–angiotensin system antagonists are indicated - as part of an
antihypertensive regimen - for the treatment of renal disease in adult patients
with hypertension and T2D.
NICE clinical guideline
182 (which includes a
recommendation to not
offer a combination of
renin-angiotensin
system antagonists to
people with CKD) and
has not been updated.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Background info should contain more information specific to the
prevalence of diabetic kidney disease (DKD)
Diabetic kidney disease is the single most common cause of renal failure
in adults starting renal replacement therapy in the UK (Nephron
2018;139(suppl1):13–46 DOI: 10.1159/000490959) UK National
Diabetes Audit (2014): 42.3% of those with T2D were recorded as having
renal disease (Hill CJ et al. Diabet Med 31:448–454 doi:
10.1111/dme.12312) Diabetes worsens all outcomes of CKD cf. those
with CKD but without diabetes (Foley RN et al. J Am Soc Nephrol 16:
489-495, 2005. doi: 10.1681/ASN.2004030203)
Thank you for your
comment. The
background section of
the scope is intended to
provide a broad
overview of the disease
and its expected
management.
Information relating to
the prevalence of
diabetic kidney disease
is already included in
the background section.
No changes have been
made to the scope.
Kidney Care UK The background information should include:
• The significant cost burden of treatment options for end stage renal
failure.
• The burden of treatment and impact on quality of life for patients and
their families.
Thank you for your
comment. The
background section has
been updated to include
information provided on

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• That treatment for kidney failure is the second most expensive
complication of type 2 diabetes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773733
The increased risk of early death amongst people with diabetes and
kidney disease (Diabetic kidney disease shortens lifespan by 16 years
compared to diabetes or CKD alone – Wen Kidney Int. 2017
Aug;92(2):388-396)
• That awareness of kidney disease as a complication of diabetes is low
and particularly that rates of annual testing by GPs are low (Only 54% of
people with diabetes are having the NICE recommended regular GP-
based urine tests that can enable early identification of kidney disease
(HQIP (2017) National Chronic Kidney Disease Audit, London.)
the impact on quality of
life and the increased
risk of early death
amongst people with
diabetes and kidney
disease.
The technology/
intervention
Bayer The description of the technology in the draft scope seems to imply that the
effect of finerenone is on lowering blood pressure.
Finerenone is a novel, nonsteroidal, selective mineralocorticoid receptor (MR)
antagonist that has a high affinity for the MR and a unique binding mode that
has been shown to reduce inflammation and fibrosis in animal models (1).
Only modest reductions in blood pressure were observed in phase 2 studies (at
the highest doses) and in the pivotal phase 3 study (FIDELIO-DKD) with
finerenone (2,3).
Haemodynamic effects have been observed in studies of dual renin-angiotensin
system blockade that have not shown efficacy in delaying CKD progression,
which supports a different mechanism of action for finerenone (3).
There is growing evidence that pathophysiological MR overactivation leads to
inflammation and fibrosis and is a key driver of CKD progression. Therefore,
Thank you for your
comment. The
technology section has
been updated.

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blockade of the MR is a potential novel treatment approach to slow the
progression of CKD (1).
(1) Agarwal R et al. Nephrol Diab Transplant (2020) 1-10
doi: 10.1093/ndt/gfaa294
(2) Bakris GL et al. JAMA. 2015;314(9):884-894. doi:10.1001/jama.2015.10081
(3) Bakris GL et al. N Engl J Med 2020; 383:2219-2229
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2025845
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Finerenone is a non-steroidal MRA and has different pharmacokinetics
and clinical effects to spironolactone and eplerenone, which are steroidal
MRAs. Finerenone does not significantly lower blood pressure and has
fewer steroid-induced adverse effects such as gynaecomastia,
impotence and low libido. Finerenone has established anti-inflammatory
and antifibroticproperties
Thank you for your
comment. The
technology section has
been updated.
Population Bayer We would like to highlight a minor point. The term ‘Chronic Kidney Disease
(CKD)’ should be used consistently throughout the documentation describing
this appraisal instead of diabetic kidney disease.
Thank you for your
comment. The
population has been
updated to ‘adults with
type 2 diabetes and
chronic kidney disease’.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Adults with DKD with significant albuminuria >30mg/mmol and eGFR
down to 25ml/min
Thank you for your
comment. The
population in the scope
has been kept broad.
The appraisal
committee will be able
to make

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recommendations
within the marketing
authorisation for this
technology.
Kidney Care UK Progression of CKD has been found to be more rapid in specific groups
and it may be necessary to consider these groups separately. eg “Some
ethnic groups, particularly Bangladeshi, appear to be more sensitive to
the combined effects of proteinuria and hypertension than other ethnic
groups. Also, clinicians need to be aware that younger people with
diabetes (<55 years) with CKD are at twice the risk of rapid progression
of CKD compared with those >65 years and thus need closer monitoring,
management of risk factors and early specialist review to delay
progression.” (Mathur R, Dreyer G, Yaqoob MM, et al Ethnic differences
in the progression of chronic kidney disease and risk of death in a UK
diabetic population: an observational cohort study BMJOpen
2018;8:e020145. doi: 10.1136/bmjopen-2017-020145)
Thank you for your
comment. Subgroup
analyses may be
reported but this will
depend on the
availability of data. The
appraisal committee will
consider the relevance
of subgroups (if the
data allows this) but will
only be able to make
recommendations
within the licensed
marketing authorisation.
This may also be
considered a potential
equality issue and is
documented in the
equalities impact
assessment form for
this appraisal. No
changes have been
made.

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Comparators Bayer When considering the most clinically relevant comparator for inclusion within an
appraisal of the clinical and cost effectiveness of finerenone, Bayer refers to the
NICE methods guide (1).
Section 6.2.2 of the ‘Guide to the methods of technology appraisal 2013’ (1)
states that the committee must consider the following five factors, when
selecting the most appropriate comparator(s):

Established NHS practice in England

The natural history of the condition without suitable treatment

Existing NICE guidance

Cost-effectiveness

The licensing status of the comparator
Additionally, section 6.2.3. states that the above five factors are not considered
equally; rather, the committee will normally be guided by established practice in
the NHS.
When considering SGLT2i inhibitors as a comparator to finerenone, the five
factors of section 6.2.2. have not been met. Only one SGLT2 inhibitor,
canagliflozin, includes a reference in section 4.1 of the SmPC “therapeutic
indications” to data on renal outcomes in subsequent sections of the SmPC.
(13). The existing NICE guideline for the treatment and management of CKD
makes no mention of SGLT2 inhibitors as part of the treatment pathway (3).
Most importantly, sales data estimate the market share (by volume) of SGLT2
inhibitors at less than 6% as compared against oral and parenteral
hypoglycaemics (2). The guiding principle for comparator selection of section
6.2.3, has not been met. SGLT2 inhibitors do not represent part of established
practice in the NHS. As such, comparison should not be made either against
the class or any particular SGLT2 inhibitor.
Thank you for your
comment. In order to
keep the scope
inclusive at this early
stage, SGLT2 inhibitors
have been retained.
The company will have
the opportunity to
outline its rationale to
committee for the
comparators it
considers to be most
relevant within its
submission.

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The mode of action of the two classes of drugs are different and there are key
differences in trial methodology and patient populations between the FIDELIO-
DKD trial and the recent studies of SGLT2 inhibitors in CKD patients that would
limit the suitability and quality of such a comparison. The rationale for Bayer’s
position on these issues is set out in the four subsections below.
1: Are SGLT2 inhibitors part of established NHS practice in England for
treating CKD patients with type 2 diabetes?
It is recognised in the methods guide that whilst the five factors of 6.2.2 should
be considered, they are normally not considered equally. Rather, the committee
will normally have their decision be “guided by established practice in the NHS
when identifying the appropriate comparator(s)” (1).
Sales data for SGLT2 inhibitors show, when compared against oral and
parenteral hypoglycaemics, that they are not sufficiently prescribed to represent
part of routine care for patients with diabetes (less than 6% of volume) (2).
Further, it is not known what proportion of this low volume is for patients with
both type 2 diabetes and CKD. For SGLT2 inhibitors to form current best
practice within the NHS, it would be expected that this would be reflected in
current NICE guidelines for the indication in question. As set out in subsection 2,
this is not the case.
Bayer also recognise, as specified in subsection 6.2.4 of the methods guide,
that the committee is not restricted to consider only those therapies with a
marketing authorisation in the defined indication. Understanding this, it should
be noted that only one SGLT2 inhibitor, canagliflozin, includes a reference in
section 4.1 of the SmPC “therapeutic indications” to data on renal outcomes in
subsequent sections of the SmPC (13). As above, sales estimates show that it
cannot reasonably be stated, whilst licensed or unlicensed, that SGLT2

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inhibitors represent an established part of clinical practice for the treatment of
CKD patients with diabetes.
2: Does any existing NICE guidance recommend SGLT2 inhibitors for the
treatment of CKD patients with type 2 diabetes?
The current published guideline for this indication ‘Chronic kidney disease in
adults: assessment and management’(3) makes no mention of SGLT2 inhibitors
as part of the clinical pathway. We understand the draft CKD guideline update
references SGLT2is however, the choice of a comparator on the basis of_draft_
guidelines is not appropriate. Existing NICE guidelines represent the most
reflective source of established and best practice comparators for finerenone.
3: How does the mechanism of action differ between SGLT2 inhibitors and
finerenone, with regards to renal and cardiovascular protection?
Metabolic and haemodynamic consequences of SGLT-2i use, including
glycosuria and lowering of intraglomerular pressure via activation of
tubuloglomerular feedback, are the main mechanisms believed to contribute to
improved kidney and CV outcomes in patients treated with SGLT-2is (4-6)
In contrast, the mechanism of kidney and CV protection with finerenone involves
inhibition of mineralocorticoid receptor overactivation, leading to anti-
inflammatory and anti-fibrotic effects, as demonstrated in the heart and kidneys
in preclinical models (7-10). This is supported by data from FIDELIO-DKD,
which showed that finerenone had modest effects on systolic blood pressure
and no effect on glycated haemoglobin levels throughout the duration of the
study. Notably, natriuretic mechanisms may have contributed to the acute CV
protection seen early on in the study (11).

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Feedback from clinicians has indicated that the availability of finerenone gives
them another treatment modality to add to their “tool box” where for decades,
they have been solely reliant on ACE inhibitors and ARBs.
4: Would a comparison between SGLT2 inhibitors and finerenone be
limited by fundamental differences in the trial methodology implemented
in the FIDELIO-DKD trial vs recent SGLT2 studies?
Bayer do not consider that SGLT2 inhibitors would be relevant comparators for
finerenone. However, were such a comparison to occur, it would be substantially
limited in its ability to compare the relative effectiveness of SGLT2 inhibitors
against finerenone, as the trial methodology of recent SGLT2i studies in CKD
patients utilises primary outcome measures and patient populations that are at
variance with those used in the FIDELIO-DKD trial (11).
Considering canagliflozin, the CREDENCE study (12) utilised a cardiorenal
composite primary outcome, as opposed to the kidney-specific composite used
in FIDELIO-DKD. Likewise, the proportion of trial participants in the CREDENCE
study with heart failure at baseline was more than double that found in the
FIDELIO-DKD study. Such differences in measures of clinical effectiveness and
study population between SGLT2i studies and FIDELIO-DKD are likely to be
magnified by the existing differences in the mode of action between the two
therapies.
(1) NICE. Guide to the methods of technology appraisal 2013.
https://www.nice.org.uk/process/pmg9/resources/guide-to-the-methods-of-technology-
appraisal-2013-pdf-2007975843781
(2) IQVIA, Xponent BPI + HPA National, Counting Units, Jan-21
(3) NICE. Chronic kidney disease in adults: assessment and management.
https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg182
(4) Heerspink HJ, et al. Circulation 2016;134:752–772.
(5) Zelniker TA, Braunwald E. J Am Coll Cardiol 2020;75:422–434.

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(6) Janssen. Invokana® (canagliflozin) Prescribing Information. 2020.
http://www.janssenlabels.com/package-insert/product-monograph/prescribing-
information/INVOKANA-pi.pdf [accessed 4 March 2020].
(7) Kolkhof P, et al. J Cardiovasc Pharmacol 2014;64:69–78.
(8) Lattenist L, et al. Hypertension 2017;69:870–878.
(9) Barrera-Chimal J, et al. Kidney Int 2018;93:1344–1355.
(10) Grune J, et al. Hypertension 2018;71:599–608.
(11) Bakris GL, et al. N Engl J Med 2020: doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa2025845.
(12) Perkovic et al. N Engld J Med 2019: doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa1811744
(13) Electronic medicines compendium. Summary of product characteristics. Invokana 100mg
film-coated tablets. https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/8855/smpc#gref
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
The main comparator should be established DKD management with RAS
inhibition without finerenone. It would be not appropriate to compare
with SGLT2 inhibitors as no head-to-head trials and SGLT2 inhibitors
have well established other cardiometabolic benefits which means they
will be used significantly differently from finerenone
Thank you for your
comment. In order to
keep the scope
inclusive at this early
stage, SGLT2 inhibitors
have been retained.
Established clinical
management without
finerenone, alone or in
combination with
angiotensin-converting
enzyme inhibitors,
angiotensin-receptor
blockers or direct renin
inhibitors is also
included as a
comparator in the
scope. Professional and
patient organisations
will have the opportunity

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to outline their rationale
to committee for the
comparators it
considers to be most
relevant within a
submission.
Kidney Care UK As SGLT2 inhibitors are not suitable for everyone, we believe it is
important that the treatment is compared to established clinical treatment
without SGLT2.
Thank you for your
comment. In order to
keep the scope
inclusive at this early
stage, SGLT2 inhibitors
have been retained.
Professional and patient
organisations will have
the opportunity to
outline their rationale to
committee for the
comparators it
considers to be most
relevant within its
submission.
Outcomes Bayer HbA1c control and diabetic ketoacidosis risk are not relevant outcomes to
measure for finerenone because of its mechanism of action (1).
Finerenone is not an antidiabetic agent and had no effect on mean HbA1c in the
pivotal phase 3 study (FIDELIO-DKD) as evidenced by the fact that HbA1c was
similar to placebo throughout (1).
Thank you for your
comment. In order to
keep the scope broad at
this early stage, HbA1c
control has been
retained. Diabetic
ketoacidosis,if relevant,

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Diabetic ketoacidosis may be caused by poor control of diabetes, and has been
reported in association with the use of SGLT2 inhibitors which have warnings in
their SPCs (2).
Diabetic ketoacidosis is not an adverse effect of interest in relation to the use of
mineralocorticoid antagonists such as finerenone (1,3).
(1) Bakris GL et al. N Engl J Med 2020; 383:2219-2229
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2025845
(2) SPCs for canagliflozin, dapagliflozin, empagliflozin & ertugliflozin accessed in the
electronic medicines compendium, March 2021
(3) Bakris GL et al. JAMA. 2015;314(9):884-894. doi:10.1001/jama.2015.10081
can be captured in the
full appraisal under the
broader outcome of
adverse events, so has
been removed.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Finerenone is not an anti-diabetic drug so it not appropriate to include
Hba1c control as an outcome. Finerenone is not known to be associated
with DKA risk so not appropriate to include this as an outcome
Thank you for your
comment. In order to
keep the scope broad at
this early stage, HbA1c
control has been
retained. Diabetic
ketoacidosis, if relevant,
can be captured in the
full appraisal under the
broader outcome of
adverse events, so has
been removed.
Kidney Care UK Kidney Care UK recommends the addition of progression to RRT/ESKD,
particularly due to the cost and quality of life burden of RRT/ESKD.
Thank you for your
comment. Disease
progression is included
in the outcome list and

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covers the outcomes of
progression to renal
replacement therapy
(RRT) and end-stage
kidney disease
suggested (ESKD).
Progression to RRT and
ESKD have not been
specified in the scope.
Economic
analysis
Bayer Bayer can confirm that the cost effectiveness of finerenone will be expressed in
terms of incremental cost per quality-adjusted life year.
The time horizon for estimating clinical and cost effectiveness will be lifetime.
Costs will be considered from an NHS and Personal Social Services
perspective.
Thank you for your
comment.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Time horizon should be sufficient to demonstrate a reduction in the
progression of DKD i.e. declining eGFR and/or demonstrate significant
reduction in albuminuria AT least a 2 year time horizon would be
sufficient in my opinion
Thank you for your
comment.
Kidney Care UK The time horizon should include progression to renal replacement
therapy as this is a significant cost
The economic analysis should consider the increased risk of depression
amongst people with CKD – the impact on HRQoL and cost of treatment
(Palmer S., Vecchio M., Craig J.C. Prevalence of depression in chronic
kidney disease: systematic review and meta-analysis of observational
studies. Kidney Int. 2013;84:179–191.)
Thank you for your
comment. The appraisal
committee will consider
all relevant costs and
benefits when
considering the cost-

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effectiveness of this
technology.
Equality Bayer Bayer are not aware of any equality issues affecting this appraisal at this
time.
Thank you for your
comment.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
No comment Thank you.
Kidney Care UK The scope should consider the difference in risk of rapid progression of
CKD in different groups with protected characteristics, and consider sub-
analysis of these groups.
Ethnicity: (see above) Some ethnic groups, particularly Bangladeshi,
appear to be more sensitive to the combined effects of proteinuria and
hypertension than other ethnic groups.
Age: Clinicians need to be aware that younger people with diabetes with
CKD (<55 years) are at twice the risk of rapid progression than those >
65 years and thus need closer monitoring, management of risk factors
and early specialist review to delay progression.
We are concerned with the recommendation within the NICE CKD draft
guideline (and the implications for this HTA) that‘For adults of African-
Caribbean or African family origin, multiply eGFR by 41.159 if calculated using
the CKD-EPI creatinine equation’.It risks exacerbating health inequalities
and excluding people from those ethnic backgrounds from timely
specialist assessment, diagnosis and ongoing treatment. Evidence
shows that automatically increasing GFR if someone is black may be
inaccurate, and can lead to overestimation of kidney function which may
mean they are referred for specialised treatment late and inevitably
experiencepoorer outcomes. There is no indication of how to applysuch
Thank you for your
comment. The appraisal
committee will consider
all relevant equality
issues and make
recommendations for
specific groups where
appropriate.
This consultation is for
finerenone only, and the
clinical guideline
updates team do not
have direct access to
these comments.
However, on this
occasion, these
comments have been
forwarded to the clinical

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a formula to those of mixed race and this recommendation is not
personalised or related to muscle mass. The historic formula is based on
an unrepresentative group of African Americans and should not be used
to determine access to specialised treatment for adults in the UK in
2021. We note that theUS National Kidney Federation and American
Society of Nephrology Taskforce has started work to address this
problem and “Ensure that GFR estimation equations provide an
unbiased assessment of kidney function so that patients, clinicians,
laboratories, and public health officials can make informed decisions to
ensure equity and personalized care for patients with kidney diseases.”
We think that this approach should apply in the UK and urge NICE to
reconsider the perpetuation of this outdated approach. With regard to
this HTA of Finererone, people of African or African-Caribbean family
origin may be excluded from timely treatment with Finerenone if the draft
recommendation regardingeGFR multiplication is adopted.
guideline updates team
for consideration.
Where appropriate, the
committee will consider
any relevant
recommendations made
in the final NICE
guideline on chronic
kidney disease when
considering the
recommendations for
this appraisal.
Other
considerations
Bayer Bayer have no additional considerations to suggest. Thank you for your
comment.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
No comment Thank you.
Innovation Bayer As described below, the technology is innovative in having a completely novel
mode of action which differs from all existing and emerging new treatment
options for CKD in T2D. This mode of action is based on an understanding of
the role of inflammation and fibrosis in the pathophysiology of CKD in T2D. As
evidence of the success of this approach, clinically significant renal and CV
benefits have been demonstrated in patients with CKD and T2D already on
background guideline-directed therapy, plus well-controlled glycated
haemoglobin and blood pressure levels (1,2).
Thank you for your
comment. The
innovative nature of this
technology will be
considered by the
committee. No changes
have been made to the
scope.

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The magnitude of the benefits observed clearly represent a step-change in
reducing the risk of CKD progression and adverse CV events in patients with
CKD and T2D (1,2).
It has been over two decades since there have been any new pharmacological
treatment options to delay the progression of CKD in T2D. Over this period, the
focus has primarily been on improved management of hyperglycemia and
hypertension, with the use of ACEis or ARBs (3).
Recently, SGLT2is, in addition to an ACEi or ARB, have demonstrated delayed
progression of CKD in T2D (3).
However, while optimizing therapy with RAS blockers and SGLT2 inhibitors has
slowed CKD progression, it has not fully stopped it (3).
Understanding of the drivers of CKD progression has also evolved, with growing
evidence that pathophysiological overactivation of the mineralocorticoid receptor
(MR) leads to inflammation and fibrosis in the kidneys. Therefore, blockade of
the MR represents a completely novel treatment approach to slow CKD
progression in T2D (3).
Finerenone is a novel, nonsteroidal, selective MR antagonist that has a high
affinity for the MR and a unique binding mode that has been shown to reduce
inflammation and fibrosis in animal models (3).
In the pivotal phase 3 study (FIDELIO-DKD) in patients with CKD and T2D, the
benefits of finerenone were clinically significant and were obtained on a
background of guideline-directed therapy, including RAS blockade at a
maximum labeled dose, plus well-controlled glycated haemoglobin and blood
pressure levels (1).

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(1) Bakris GL et al. N Engl J Med 2020; 383:2219-2229
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2025845
(2) Filippatos G et al._Circulation._2021;143:540–552
DOI: 10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.120.051898
(3) Agarwal R et al. Nephrol Diab Transplant (2020) 1-10
doi: 10.1093/ndt/gfaa294
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
Finerenone is a novel therapy for DKD with potential to have additive
benefits to current standard of care including RAS inhibition. I would
consider this a step-change in the management of DKD but once again I
feel finerenone should be considered an additional pillar of DKD
management
Thank you for your
comment. The
innovative nature of this
technology will be
considered by the
committee. No changes
have been made to the
scope.
Kidney Care UK We do consider the treatment to be innovative and it has potential to
make a significant and substantial impact on health-related benefits.
Thank you for your
comment. The
innovative nature of this
technology will be
considered by the
committee. No changes
have been made to the
scope.
Questions for
consultation
Bayer 1. Have all relevant comparators for finerenone been included in the
scope?
Bayer do not consider that SGLT2i should be listed as comparators – see
response to question 2. For decades, there have been no treatment options for
Thank you for your
comment.
In order to keep the
scope inclusive at this

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CKD apart from ACEi and ARB for retarding the progression toward end-stage
renal disease. Bayer consider the comparator to finerenone to be standard of
care established in clinical practice which is ACEi/ARB. Finerenone is an add-on
therapy to ACEi/ARB addressing residual risk of renal and CV outcomes and
CKD disease progression (see response to question 3).
2. Is it appropriate to include SGLT2 inhibitors as comparators? If so,
should it be limited to any specific SGLT2 inhibitors?
Bayer do not consider that SGLT2i should be listed as comparators. Please
refer to Bayer’s response above regarding the section – ‘Comparators’.
3. Is it anticipated that finerenone would be given in addition to an ACE
inhibitor or an ARB?
Yes, finerenone will be given in addition to an ACE inhibitor or an ARB. In the
FIDELIO trial, finerenone was given on top of ACE inhibitor/ ARB.
4. Which treatments are considered to be established clinical practice in
the NHS for chronic kidney disease in people with type 2 diabetes?
Which treatments would finerenone be likely to displace in this
population?
For decades, there have been no treatment options for CKD apart from ACEi
and ARB for retarding the progression toward end-stage renal disease. Bayer
consider ACEi/ARBs to be established clinical practice in this indication.
Finerenone would be used in add-on to ACEi/ARB to reduce the residual risk of
CV and renal events and would not displace any treatment.
5. Are the outcomes listed appropriate?
early stage, SGLT2
inhibitors have been
retained. The
comparators also
include established
clinical management
without finerenone,
alone or in combination
with angiotensin-
converting enzyme
inhibitors, angiotensin-
receptor blockers or
direct renin inhibitors.
In response to the
outcomes suggested as
inappropriate, diabetic
ketoacidosis risk has
been removed from the
outcomes listed in the
scope. However, in
order to keep the scope
broad at this early
stage, HbA1c control
has been retained.
The innovative nature of
this technology will be
considered by the
committee. No changes
relating to innovation

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Bayer do not consider that all suggested outcomes are appropriate. Please refer
to Bayer’s response above regarding the section – ‘Outcomes’.
6. Are there any subgroups of people in whom finerenone is expected to
be more clinically effective and cost effective or other groups that should
be examined separately?
Bayer are not aware at this time of any subgroups that may be more clinically
and cost effective or of any other groups that should be examined separately.
7. Where do you consider finerenone will fit into the existing NICE
pathway, chronic kidney disease?
Finerenone will be considered as an add-on therapy to ACEi/ARB to further
reduce the risk of CKD progression and adverse CV and renal outcomes.
8. Do you consider finerenone to be innovative in its potential to make a
significant and substantial impact on health-related benefits and how it
might improve the way that current need is met (is this a ‘step-change’
in the management of the condition)?
Bayer consider that finerenone is an innovative medicine and offers a new
treatment option for clinicians and patients in a field of medicine where there
have been no new specific treatment options for decades. Please refer to
Bayer’s response above regarding the section – ‘Innovation’.
have been made to the
scope.

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9. Do you consider that the use of finerenone can result in any potential
significant and substantial health-related benefits that are unlikely to be
included in the QALY calculation?
Bayer are not aware at this time of any benefits that are unlikely to be captured
in the QALY calculation.
10. Do you consider that there will be any barriers to adoption of this
technology into practice?
Bayer are not aware at this time of any potential barriers to adoption of
finerenone into practice.
Primary Care
Diabetes Society
I anticipate finerenone would be given in addition to RAS inhibition which
is current standard of care. Finerenone would not displace any current
treatments but could be considered as add-on therapy to RAS inhibitors
and also add-on to SGLT2 inhibitors or instead of SGLT2 inhibitors if
they are not tolerated or contraindicated. (FIDELIO-DKD allowed SGLT2
inhibitor treatment in around 5% of trial participants)
Thank you for your
comment. The
comparators in the
scope include
established clinical
management without
finerenone, alone or in
combination with
angiotensin-converting
enzyme inhibitors,
angiotensin-receptor
blockers or direct renin
inhibitors.
Kidney Care UK Where do you consider finerenone will fit into the existing NICE
**pathway,chronic kidney disease? **We consider that Finerenone would
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fit in the NICE CKD pathway after ‘establishing cause’. If diabetes is
considered to be the cause then treatment with Finererone should be
considered.
**Barriers to treatment:**the major barrier to treatment is the current low
rate of implementation of the NICE recommended kidney function tests
in people with diabetes (Only 54% of people with diabetes are having the
NICE recommended regular GP-based urine tests that can enable early
identification of kidney disease (HQIP (2017) National Chronic Kidney
Disease Audit, London)
The removal of ACR testing from QOF in 2014 is likely to have
contributed to the lower number of patients having an annual screen for
ACR. Failing to undertake these tests is likely to reduce the identification
of people who will benefit from the use of finerenone
In addition, there is evidence of significant problems with coding of CKD
in primary care (eg >50% of CKD was uncoded, Molokhia M et al, British
Journal of General Practice 2020; 70 (700): e785-e792) meaning there
are likely to be many people with CKD who are excluded from treatment
because they are not identified or recorded.
been noted. No
changes have been
made to the scope.
Any additional
comments on the
draft scope
Bayer Bayer have no further comments on the draft scope and consider that appraisal
through the STA process is appropriate.
Thank you for your
comment.
Kidney Care UK Kidney Care UK believes it’s vital that people are provided with lifestyle
and diet advice so they can take action to reduce their risk of further
kidney damage, and it is important that any NICE guidance resulting
from this review recommends the provision of suitable advice
Thank you for your
comment. Where
appropriate, the
committee will
reference relevant NICE
guidance on lifestyle

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and diet advice for
people with chronic
kidney disease.

The following consultees/commentators indicated that they had no comments on the draft remit and/or the draft scope

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